And now for something completely different...Suici

[Van [down by the river]]

Amazing. It only took one post to size you up as useless, and one more for you to confirm my impression.


Run along, Skippy, the Showy Angst Seminar is letting people in the door...

[Smackie Chan]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by zzubevol:

make me

fag.</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

{Poof!} You're a fag!

[Pastor Bob Tilton]

Welly, Welly, Well

It looks as if the old demon zzubeboy is gonna come on smackchat and tell the clones how to feel about smackchat suicide. I tell you! it's idle hands, that's the work of the devil. Find you a nice fat woman with a job that thinks you are the next Bobby Darin and all those devilish thoughts will go away.


AMEN AMEN The Jungle
AMEN AMEN The Clones

A pox on the house of the dissidents...


If any of you homos even think about that shit I will personally kick yer ass!!!!!!

[The Rook]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Van:
Amazing. It only took one post to size you up as useless, and one more for you to confirm my impression.


Run along, Skippy, the Showy Angst Seminar is letting people in the door...</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sack that or whatever it is this board says! Fact is, Van, go on and dismiss the minor who just lied his way through registration by frauding his birthdate! I have read what you have to say and find it very interesting. Now what was the shot about Texas, Paintballs, etc.?
Now this board is lining up to the rep is has going.

[Owen this too]

Actually, ZZubt makes a point.

He says quit whining, and I agree with him.

I'd feel bad if some of the people I know commited suicide. I'd feel bad if Van committed suicide. But, I'd still show up for work the next day, get out and have a couple of beers, go squeeze out some anxietey essence, and maybe watch a movie.

So what...I'm vain, self centered, and selfish.

I live.

[The Rook]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Owen this too:
Actually, ZZubt makes a point.

He says quit whining, and I agree with him.

I'd feel bad if some of the people I know commited suicide. I'd feel bad if Van committed suicide. But, I'd still show up for work the next day, get out and have a couple of beers, go squeeze out some anxietey essence, and maybe watch a movie.

So what...I'm vain, self centered, and selfish.

I live.</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
Are you fucking serious? Damn, Dude! If your mom heard you say that you would be banned from your little PC, errrr, window of life,,,,,,,for a month.

[Cinder]

Lots of good replies on here

Suicide...Have I thought about it??? Yes

Have I attempted it??? Yes

that's as far as I will go with the personal info on this

I am just here to RACK Funky on the M*A*S*H theme song reset !!!

[Owen this too]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by The Rook:

Are you fucking serious? Damn, Dude! If your mom heard you say that you would be banned from your little PC, errrr, window of life,,,,,,,for a month.</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

When she died, I traveled 3000 miles for her funeral, and was back to work within the week.

I guess what I should of done is quit my job, sobbed unconsolibly, and talked of killing myself.
I feel so bad that I didn't do this.

Yeahpp...I sure let my mom down by not committing suicide.

[socalvansmack]

Van Opiate

Actually you are perfectly fit to answer the question. Many a priest I've known would pretend that suicide doesn't exist feeling too uncomfortable just talking about the question. (Not unlike some posters in this thread. Hell, I feel uncomfortable discussing this topic.)

Growing up a friend of mine lost his dad quite unexpectedly of a heart attack, probably not a day over 40. We were in 4th grade at the time, and the entire class was invited to attend the funeral. Being in a Catholic school you never refused an invitation that would get you out of Sister Mary Xavier's brain numbing dictation lessons. As funerals go nothing seemed out of the ordinary as the priest moved through the ritual with requisite words of comfort for the family but talking very little about the deceased. In fact, there was no mention of the tragedy of dying so young or suffering a heart attack which puzzled me.

I had questions for my parents who just dismissed it as nothing to worry your head about. Then afterward my mom took me aside and explained to me that David's dad didn't die from a heart attack but killed himself with a self-inflicted gunshot to the head.

Reflecting back on that I'd like to think that my mom was being one of those parents who wanted to be truthful and forthright with her oldest son. I thought perhaps she was allowing me a peek into the world of adulthood by sharing this information with me rather than choosing to shield me from to taboo of suicide. But though it was never said explicitly the message was clear: David's dad sinned so badly he's going to hell. Never again did we speak about the subject. It was taboo again.

Moms was just passing the opiate onto her pre-adolescent son. She was probably pretty conflicted opening a Pandora's Box fearing that just mentioning the word to me might be enough to push me over the edge but thought it needed to be done just so I wouldn't even think about it.

[Invictus]

Van, an interesting revelation and you have alot of balls to trot it out in this forum. I myself have learned the better of telling actual info about my life. Props for you for not giving a fuck.

I was sleeping one morning and heard this on the "Bob and Tom Show." It was so powerful it woke me out of a sound sleep and I listened very intently to it. Tell me what you think, Van:

SUICIDE
By Bobby Gaylor
 1999
Animals don't have a choice.
If they're not happy with their place in the world... too bad.
They have to live the life they've been given.
Humans, on the other hand, don't have to.
We have a choice.
If you don't like your place in the world
you can get off anytime you want.
Suicide. That's right.
You don't like the way your life's going,
you don't like the way you are in the world,
anything around you,
you can check out anytime you like.
Animals aren't allowed that thought
and believe me, if they were, they would use it.
There'd be a lot of dogs and cats, owned by assholes
that live in high-rises, diving out the windows.
Zebras... if they even had remotely that thought
would take a look at themselves and go, "What the F*#K!
Black & white in a green & brown world... this blows.
I'm just gonna jump in the river.... I don't have a thumb to work a gun or hold a knife or even open a jar of pills. I'm just gonna dive into the next lion's mouth. Why even bother?"
Now, monkeys have the opposable thumb so they could kinda do it the exact same way we do. Now, there's a bunch of people that say, "Oh, it's against the law". Well, it's only against the law if you do a crappy job and get caught. Other people say, "Oh, we should save them". Yeah, well you know what? Not everybody wants to be saved. Not everybody should be saved. And who are we to force our will upon them? I mean, isn't that one of the joys about being a human? Freedom of choice? Now, it's not all bad. Now, I'm not saying "Kill yourself". But if you're gonna be an idiot and do it anyway, it's no sweat off of my back. There's a lot of good that could come from it. A little bit of bad thrown in. Some of the things: A job will open... An apartment will become available... There'll be more air for me... They say there's two girls for every guy - if you're a man, there'll be four chicks for me... There'll be more Ketel One vodka for me... There'll be one less idiot in line at the bank who gets up to the window without their F*#King slips filled out... I won't ever have to go to the store to buy my favorite Salt & Vinegar Chips and have the clerk point at you and say, "They bought the last bag".... You won't help change the McDonald's sign to a Hundred Billion Served... You'll never get AIDS... You won't have to worry about calories ever... No more, "Hey, does this make me look fat?"... There'll be one less polluting human...You won't have to recycle... There'll be one less car on the road... There'll be more Ring Dings for me... Fifty or so chickens' lives will be spared... Your fingers won't ever get red from eating pistachios... You won't be forced to visit your Grandparents on Sundays anymore... No more church... You'll be saying, "Hey, World - Kiss My Ass!"... No more wet dreams about Supermodels... No more Barry Manilow... For a few years anyway... Wondering "Am I a loser?" will be a thing of the past... Say good-bye to crappy Xmas presents from Aunts and Uncles... You won't have to suffer through a Motley Crue reunion... F*#K flossing and brushing... You'll never lose sleep over a pregnancy scare... Adios, Acne... Worrying whether you fit in or not won't be on your brain... See ya later, homework... You'll never have to sit through another movie brought to you by the creators of South Park... Schools out forever.... No more paying bills... You won't have to do chores... You won't be able to run over toads with the lawnmower though... You'll also miss McDonald's French Fries... Bugs Bunny... The amazing electrifying feeling that surges through your body when you kiss someone for the first time...
You won't be able to watch the letterbox director's cut of Jaws... Candy... Living above ground... Pudding crust... You'll miss the rush of getting your first apartment... Getting to the point in your life where you can tell your parents to "F*#K Off! I gotta make my own mistakes....you did"... You'll miss sex - you'll miss thinking about it, looking for it, sex by yourself, sex with a partner, sex with multiple partners... No more summer nights that seem to go on forever... Roller coasters.... Naming your kid the name you always wanted... Making a difference in the world... You'll miss the experience and pleasure of Hallucinogenics... Watching your neighbor's wife change clothes with her blinds open... A lifetime of masturbating... Watching your favorite team sweep the series... Music... You will definitely miss music... Trying to sneak into your house drunk - three hours past your curfew... You'll miss the blaze and glory of the 4th of July fireworks... The taste of Captain Crunch... If you're a boy, you'll miss the feeling the first time you reach up a girl's shirt... If you're a girl, the feeling the first time you reach down a boy's pants... You'll miss your favorite coat... Waffles with whipped cream and strawberries... Beating your friends at video games... You won't be around to see what shape and color the new marshmallow in Lucky Charms will be... You'll miss the feeling you get when reminiscing about your first love - thirty years after the fact... The joy of giving and receiving at Christmas... Skinny dipping... Getting stoned, reading Green Eggs & Ham, and eating like a horse that got loose in the grain bin... Flying cars... Hey, you were born - Finish what was started.